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	Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}		Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}

	[[File:InnerSolarSystem-en.png\|thumb\|300px\|The inner [[~~Solar System~~]], from the [[Sun]] to [[Jupiter]], including the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid main belt]] between [[Mars]] and Jupiter.]]		[[File:InnerSolarSystem-en.png\|thumb\|300px\|The inner [[solar system]], from the [[Sun]] to [[Jupiter]], including the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid main belt]] between [[Mars]] and Jupiter.]]
	The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].		The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].

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	Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}		Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}

	[[File:InnerSolarSystem-en.png\|thumb\|300px\|The inner Solar System, from the Sun to Jupiter, including the asteroid main belt between Mars and Jupiter.]]		[[File:InnerSolarSystem-en.png\|thumb\|300px\|The inner [[Solar System]], from the [[Sun]] to [[Jupiter]], including the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid main belt]] between [[Mars]] and Jupiter.]]
	The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].		The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].

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	Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}		Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}

	[[File:~~Mainbelt~~.png\|thumb\|300px\|~~Schematic representation of~~ the asteroid main belt]]		[[File:InnerSolarSystem-en.png\|thumb\|300px\|The inner Solar System, from the Sun to Jupiter, including the asteroid main belt between Mars and Jupiter.]]
	The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].		The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].

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	In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].		In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].

	{{GZ\|In the interim between the Jupiter and Mars evolutions<ref>When [[Rudolf Steiner]] speaks here of the interim period between the evolution of [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]], he means the transition from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]]; for the Old Sun reached to where Jupiter now traces its orbit and the Old Moon reached to where Mars now has its orbit.</ref> a number of spiritual beings were, if I may express myself trivially, detached from the sphere of the Mights; they were so placed in the course of evolution that, instead of leading the evolution forward, they placed obstacles in its way. This is what we have come to know as the conflict in the heavens. So the deeds of the mights that had been commanded, if we may say so, were thrown into the development, for the ruling world mights of the ~~Hierarchies~~ had to say to themselves: That which was to come into being could never come into being if the path were to go straight on. Something greater must come into being.		{{GZ\|In the interim between the Jupiter and Mars evolutions<ref>When [[Rudolf Steiner]] speaks here of the interim period between the evolution of [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]], he means the transition from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]]; for the Old Sun reached to where Jupiter now traces its orbit and the Old Moon reached to where Mars now has its orbit.</ref> a number of spiritual beings were, if I may express myself trivially, detached from the sphere of the Mights; they were so placed in the course of evolution that, instead of leading the evolution forward, they placed obstacles in its way. This is what we have come to know as the conflict in the heavens. So the deeds of the mights that had been commanded, if we may say so, were thrown into the development, for the ruling world mights of the hierarchies had to say to themselves: That which was to come into being could never come into being if the path were to go straight on. Something greater must come into being.

	Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}		Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}

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	'''Fight in Heaven''' is the term used to describe the struggle between truly advanced and retarded [[spiritual mights]] that took place at the beginning of the third planetary stage of [[world evolution]] (→ [[Old Moon]]) and in which the primordial [[secret of evil]] lies.		'''Fight in Heaven''' is the term used in [[anthroposophy]] to describe the struggle between truly advanced and retarded [[spiritual mights]] that took place at the beginning of the third planetary stage of [[world evolution]] (→ [[Old Moon]]) and in which the primordial [[secret of evil]] lies.

	In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].		In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].

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	'''Fight in Heaven''' is the term used to describe the struggle between truly advanced and retarded spiritual mights that took place at the beginning of the third planetary stage of [[world evolution]] (→ [[Old Moon]]) and in which the primordial [[secret of evil]] lies.		'''Fight in Heaven''' is the term used to describe the struggle between truly advanced and retarded [[spiritual mights]] that took place at the beginning of the third planetary stage of [[world evolution]] (→ [[Old Moon]]) and in which the primordial [[secret of evil]] lies.

	In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].		In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].

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	[[File:Mainbelt.png\|thumb\|300px\|Schematic representation of the asteroid main belt]]		[[File:Mainbelt.png\|thumb\|300px\|Schematic representation of the asteroid main belt]]
	The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].		The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].

	{{GZ\|Now we have reached that point where we want to remember that when the Old Moon was formed from Saturn and the Sun, something quite new happened. A part of the dense substance was now thrown out, and two bodies arose. One body took the finest substances and spiritual beings and became a finer Sun, the second body became an all the denser Moon. So this third state of our planetary system develops in such a way that it is only a uniform planet for a time; but then it throws a planet out of itself, which is now beside it. At first, then, the Moon, so long as it is a unitary body, reaches as far as Mars. Then, however, the sun contracts, and it is orbited by a body, and that approximately where the present Mars orbits it, that is, approximately in the periphery of the original unitary body.		{{GZ\|Now we have reached that point where we want to remember that when the Old Moon was formed from Saturn and the Sun, something quite new happened. A part of the dense substance was now thrown out, and two bodies arose. One body took the finest substances and spiritual beings and became a finer Sun, the second body became an all the denser Moon. So this third state of our planetary system develops in such a way that it is only a uniform planet for a time; but then it throws a planet out of itself, which is now beside it. At first, then, the Moon, so long as it is a unitary body, reaches as far as Mars. Then, however, the sun contracts, and it is orbited by a body, and that approximately where the present Mars orbits it, that is, approximately in the periphery of the original unitary body.

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 Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.|110|162ff}}
 == Literature ==
 * [[Rudolf Steiner]]: ''Das Prinzip der spirituellen Ökonomie im Zusammenhang mit Wiederverkörperungsfragen'', [[GA 109]] (2000), ISBN 3-7274-1090-6 {{Lectures|109}}

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	In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].		In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].

	{{GZ\|In the interim between the Jupiter and Mars evolutions<ref>When [[Rudolf Steiner]] speaks here of the interim period between the evolution of [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]], he means the transition from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]]; for the Old Sun reached to where Jupiter now traces its orbit and the Old Moon reached to where Mars now has its orbit.</~~rev~~> a number of spiritual beings were, if I may express myself trivially, detached from the sphere of the Mights; they were so placed in the course of evolution that, instead of leading the evolution forward, they placed obstacles in its way. This is what we have come to know as the conflict in the heavens. So the deeds of the mights that had been commanded, if we may say so, were thrown into the development, for the ruling world mights of the Hierarchies had to say to themselves: That which was to come into being could never come into being if the path were to go straight on. Something greater must come into being.		{{GZ\|In the interim between the Jupiter and Mars evolutions<ref>When [[Rudolf Steiner]] speaks here of the interim period between the evolution of [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]], he means the transition from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]]; for the Old Sun reached to where Jupiter now traces its orbit and the Old Moon reached to where Mars now has its orbit.</ref> a number of spiritual beings were, if I may express myself trivially, detached from the sphere of the Mights; they were so placed in the course of evolution that, instead of leading the evolution forward, they placed obstacles in its way. This is what we have come to know as the conflict in the heavens. So the deeds of the mights that had been commanded, if we may say so, were thrown into the development, for the ruling world mights of the Hierarchies had to say to themselves: That which was to come into being could never come into being if the path were to go straight on. Something greater must come into being.

	Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}		Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.\|110\|162ff}}

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'''Fight in Heaven''' is the term used to describe the struggle between truly advanced and retarded spiritual mights that took place at the beginning of the third planetary stage of [[world evolution]] (→ [[Old Moon]]) and in which the primordial [[secret of evil]] lies.

In the transitional period from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]], spiritual beings from the hierarchy of the [[Dynameis]] ([[Spirits of Motion]] or [[Mights]]) were, as it were, "commanded" to act as [[adversaries]] to hinder the progressive development, but precisely by this means to bring about a new essential evolutionary leap. These mights were not yet evil in themselves and could not have become inhibiting forces of their own will. But by running up a storm against normal development and thereby opening up new paths for evolution, they ultimately also became producers of [[evil]].

{{GZ|In the interim between the Jupiter and Mars evolutions<ref>When [[Rudolf Steiner]] speaks here of the interim period between the evolution of [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]], he means the transition from the [[Old Sun]] to the [[Old Moon]]; for the Old Sun reached to where Jupiter now traces its orbit and the Old Moon reached to where Mars now has its orbit.</rev> a number of spiritual beings were, if I may express myself trivially, detached from the sphere of the Mights; they were so placed in the course of evolution that, instead of leading the evolution forward, they placed obstacles in its way. This is what we have come to know as the conflict in the heavens. So the deeds of the mights that had been commanded, if we may say so, were thrown into the development, for the ruling world mights of the Hierarchies had to say to themselves: That which was to come into being could never come into being if the path were to go straight on. Something greater must come into being.

Just think, you have a cart to push. By pushing it forward, your powers develop in a certain way. If you load the cart with a heavy ballast, then you have to push harder, but your strength develops more. Think of it, if the Deity had left the world evolution as it was, beyond Jupiter: certainly, human beings could have developed well; but humanity could have become even stronger if obstacles to development were placed in its way. For the good of humanity certain powers had to be detached. These mights did not become evil at first, one need not regard them as evil mights, but one can even say that they sacrificed themselves by placing themselves in the way of development. These mights can therefore be called the gods of obstacles, in the fullest sense of the word. They are the gods of hindrances, the obstacles that have been placed in the way of the path of development; and from now on the possibility was given for all that took place in the future. These mights that had been detached were not in themselves evil; on the contrary, they were the great promoters of evolution by running up a storm against normal evolution. But they were the generators of evil; for by their running up a storm, evil gradually came into being.|110|162ff}}

== Literature ==
* [[Rudolf Steiner]]: ''Das Prinzip der spirituellen Ökonomie im Zusammenhang mit Wiederverkörperungsfragen'', [[GA 109]] (2000), ISBN 3-7274-1090-6 {{Lectures|109}}
* [[Rudolf Steiner]]: ''Geistige Hierarchien und ihre Widerspiegelung in der physischen Welt'', [[GA 110]] (1991), ISBN 3-7274-1100-7 {{Lectures|110}}

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	The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].		The consequences of the fight in heaven are still visible in the sky today in the form of the debris field of the [[w:asteroid belt\|asteroid belt]], which today spreads out between [[Jupiter]] and [[Mars]]. It was formed in the early days of [[earth evolution]] and is made up of a multitude of [[w:asteroid\|asteroid]]s and [[w:dwarf planet\|dwarf planet]]s that move around our [[Sun]] on partly very eccentric orbits between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. However, the prerequisites for this were already created when the [[Old Moon]] formed from [[Old Saturn]] and its successor, the [[Old Sun]].

	{{GZ\|Now we have reached that point where we want to remember that when the Old Moon was formed from Saturn and the Sun, something quite new happened. A part of the dense substance was now thrown out, and two bodies arose. One body took the finest substances and spiritual beings and became a finer Sun, the second body became an all the denser Moon. So this third state of our planetary system develops in such a way that it is only a uniform planet for a time; but then it throws a planet out of itself, which is now beside it. At first, then, the Moon, so long as it is a unitary body, reaches as far as Mars. Then, however, the sun contracts, and it is orbited by a body, and that approximately where the present Mars orbits it, that is, approximately in the periphery of the original unitary body.		{{GZ\|Now we have reached that point where we want to remember that when the Old Moon was formed from Saturn and the Sun, something quite new happened. A part of the dense substance was now thrown out, and two bodies arose. One body took the finest substances and spiritual beings and became a finer Sun, the second body became an all the denser Moon. So this third state of our planetary system develops in such a way that it is only a uniform planet for a time; but then it throws a planet out of itself, which is now beside it. At first, then, the Moon, so long as it is a unitary body, reaches as far as Mars. Then, however, the sun contracts, and it is orbited by a body, and that approximately where the present Mars orbits it, that is, approximately in the periphery of the original unitary body.